Knock out a tooth and break a nail

"Tooth and Nail" match got added back to the main card. New pre-show match for All Out will be Private Party vs. Dark Order (Alex Reynolds & John Silver).

Also a "Tooth and Nail" match is just a cinematic Falls Count Anywhere match that takes place in Baker's dental office.

Rethinking ordering the show because I don't want to begin trying to explain this "match" to my gf. I want to have faith in AEW but.....

A “cinematic match”. Fuck it, I’m jumping to Noid’s side. TNA 2.0.

This was supposed to be the alternative.

Meh, AEW doesn’t overdo cinematic matches like WWE has, and it figures to be quick.

I like Swole but she’s a bit green and clunky in the ring, and Britt’s coming off an injury. Not a bad way to cover up their shortcomings.

That was pretty much Tony Khan's reason why they went the cinematic route since he wants Baker to shake off her ring rust first before letting her wrestle a match in front of a live crowd.

Them putting the match back on the main card probably means it was never planned to be as long as usual Buy-In matches are for time.

Or they could just continue the stint until she has time to actually shake off the rust in actual matches.


Cinematic matches are very blah and take me out if it 100% everytime WWE did it. Will not be watching.

Hope her dental office in the strip mall is next door to a mom and pop hardware store

I think compared to other cinematic matches this will feel more like a TV segment and less like a match. I can't imagine it's very long given that the story is pretty low on the totem pole, hence why it was going to be on the pre-show.

Feel like they probably moved it off the pre-show over backlash at only one women's match on the main card, AEW rarely has more than one women's match on Dynamite and it feels like the division has been phoned in.

All that said one blah match isn't enough to put me off of watching, I'm looking forward to the rest of the card. Rosa/Shida in particular should be killer, as should FTR/Omega and Hangman.

I always like a battle royal, think Eddie Kingston is using Butcher/Blade/Lucha Bros to win the thing for himself. I hope MJF wins the title but if Mox retains, being able to do Mox vs. Kingston would be a great consolation prize.

Can't wait for hangman to turn tonight. And the crowning of MJF. These are the two things I'm hoping to happen tonight.

Hmmmm


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Hmmmmmm

So, Will Hobbs is going against a local guy (Augusta, GA) named Sean Legacy. A pretty good hand with some size, has seen the inside of a gym, and women may find good looking.

He's kind of screwed, isn't he?

Matt is a good name for a wrestler eh

Our champ is a badass...

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Tay Conti has officially signed. So many hot women in that division.

Now to just book them in meaningful programs instead of just doing a token women's match a week.

She's facing Nyla tonight....hope it's not a squash match

lol she doesn't even talk. It's literally just hikaru shida making bread

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Probably were a ton better than the cookies Debra used to make in WWE and what happened afterwards if you hated them.

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Probably the most heavenly bread ever made!!! :lol:

What about dill bread though?
It's pretty good.

Would you like to take a guess at what they use to make it?

Cucumbers!


Should try pickle water tbh. Fresh cut pickle on the edge of your glass. Drop 2 in the glass if you have the ballS.

Seems TNT decided against waiting any longer to make a decision for the date for next week's Dynamite since its going to be on a Thursday regardless what happens with the Lakers vs. Rockets NBA playoff series.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thursday is going to be an action-packed night �� Don't miss Dynamite Thursday, Sept. 17 @ 8/7c on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> <a href="https://t.co/XdVHujWHQf">pic.twitter.com/XdVHujWHQf</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling on TNT (@AEWonTNT) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT/status/1304902609673703427?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Doesn't matter if it's Bengals vs. Browns, willingly going against the NFL is silly.

I've never felt so let down

Just wait til your next date

Nevermind, seems either TNT changed their minds or AEW's social media guy continues to botch stuff since AEW announced this week's episode will be on Wednesday.

Lakers beat the Rockets yesterday to end their playoff series in 5 games.

Should be interesting in seeing how much of a hit both AEW and NXT take next week since both are airing on the same night. For some comparison, seems the shared viewership between both shows is around 200k.

This deserves to be here...JR is a icon!!

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I honestly don't think this could happen.

She's too cool.

How dare you post Too Cool in a wrestling forum and not have a gif. God damn it Seanny.


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Nearly a year into its debut, Dynamite/AEW has only had 1 DQ, 2 time-limit draws, and one non-finish (double countout).


DQ: Kenny/Pac Ironman match on Dynamite
Time-Limit Draw: Cody/Darby Fyter Fest, Mox/Pac on Dark Dynamite
Double Countout: Avalon/Cutler on Dark

(credit - reddit)

Miro and Kip already a serious contender for Most Handsome Tag Team in Wrestling.

Probably will wait until they have a match together to formally make a decision but all other handsome tag teams you are officially put on notice.

Lol is it just me or does Debra sound EXACTLY like Jim Ross when she says "Stone Cold"

wrong thread...

oh well

hope Droford's new toilet paper is ALL ELITE

i laughed

Im pretty sure within like a month they'll drop them being together

Yeah they’ll definitely do something with a Love Triangle between Miro, Kip, and Penelope if only to poke fun at WWE.

Just random.

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Chris sucked the gut in a bit there.

Sonny Kiss and Joey Janela trying to piss off Cornette with the NEW NEW Midnight Express name

Since Darby Allin is going through a divorce someone should set him and Thunder Rosa up..err..might need her to get a divorce too as well

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Ben Carter wrestled Brian Cage on an indy show recently and Cage apparently didn't go to Dynamite yesterday because he wasn't feeling well.

So yeah, those indy shows are a breeding ground to spread this.

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ALLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc3y...aGexU&index=10

Confirmed

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I can't believe they've debuted Miro is such an unimpressive manner. I mean, I totally can believe it (I predicted foreign hairdresser to "mock" WWE for caring about their performers' images), but they went with best friend for a wedding angle...a wedding angle...get it?

Holy shit. It's not "best friend". You're such a dumb fuck you don't even know it's "best man". Instead of commenting on U.S. media and culture, which you clearly know absolutely nothing about, you should really stick to Aussie media and culture analysis, you pathetic idiot.

BigCrippyZ is sick.

The words “Aussie culture”, there’s an oxymoron if ever I saw one.

It was a fucking typo, you bitter slug. "Best man" in not a unique phenomenon to the US, but it's pretty predictable you hick cunts can't see past your own nose. It explains why you very often get knocked down on legal stuff by amateurs (and not just me) about something that is apparently your profession. I apologize for ever defending or deferring to you.

It's also pretty telling that you miss the point entirely. You're picking up on my misuse of a word because the meaning must fucking crush you. Imagine having an irrational hatred of WWE (and that's saying something, because they are a gross fucking company) to the point that you will hitch your little blue buggie to ANYTHING else. Then you defend it to a hysterical degree. Finally, you're left just insulting people for getting a word wrong in their criticism. :lol:

The point is they got handed an apparent bad-ass and misused star. Again. They made him a comedy gimmick. Again. They can't help themselves but be obsessed with WWE and STILL do bad attempts at comedy to needle at the big dog. Everything I've said about them has been absolutely right and now you know it.

You won't be a big enough man to admit it. I don't care if you do. This place has got exactly three good posters left -- Gertner, #1-wwf-fan and Destor. That's if you even consider #fan and Destor as being around anymore. Why? Because interest in wrestling is dead and at an all-time low. Why? Because wrestling is FUCKING SHIT. Top-to-bottom. There's just more of it. I just come here as a struggling wrestling addict to sort through my own thoughts. This is probably the nadir for wrestling outside of being able to find just about whatever you want from the past on the internet somewhere. And it's just nice to tell you how wrong you have been about everything AEW. They fucking suck and you know it, and you kind of even admitted it yourself.

"The Best Man" Miro...yep, the promotion where things matter. Fucking mark.

Whether you love AEW or hate it, I don’t know how you can look at how they’ve used Miro the last couple weeks and see it as anything other than objectively terrible.

Completely fair post. :y:

And I know you weren't trying to stir shit, but that's obviously why BigCrippyZ is so salty.

Yep.

Watching Miro in that tag match was just ridiculous.

This guy is a monster, has tons of live TV experience, and charisma. The only reason he wasn’t introduced at the top of the card was either because:

1) They are sticking to their booking plans rather than calling an audible.
2) He’s not part of the cool kids yet

Or both of the above

Ok back to positive vibes dammit!!!


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Or neither of the above?

They bring him in at the top they get criticised for doing what TNA did; putting a WWE castoff over their own guys.

Or, bringing him in at the top means there’s only one way to go; down. I remember a lot of criticism about how Archer was handled when he came in and ended up losing to Cody.

Or, maybe the guy is happy doing what he’s doing? And they’re playing a longer game?

But those scenarios make me an AEW apologist...

You can bring someone in and make them look strong without putting them at the top of the card.

Yeah you can. I was responding to Pierre who specifically spoke about bringing him in at the top of the card.

Why would they stop with him? Both their single championships have only been held by WWE castoffs. Not to mention Miro already has the "WWE held me down gimmick" like half of their roster. Why stop leaning into it now, when out of all the castoffs he is probably the best they have got since Moxley.

Seems like a weird guy to start taking a stand and holding back WWE guys with.

Good thing they were focusing on using one of their wrestling stars to put over maybe the stupidest looking mascot in all of sports instead of their horrible joke of an NFL franchise. Getting blown out by the Dolphins??? Wow

lol

AEW fans have to stick their fingers in their ears and go “la-la-la! I’m not listening!” and talk about “long games” and shit. Maybe the short game doesn’t need to suck in the meantime?

multiple AEW fans are in this thread, and they've criticized AEW. You dumb fuck.

I'm a Kip Sabian fan, so I like that Miro is teaming with him. I think they "mesh well."

But this angle seems...off. I don't hate it, but it also kinda seems below Miro.

I know that doesn't make a lot of sense, but neither does Miro being used for this story.

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I’d barely consider myself an AEW fan to be honest. I watch most weeks but skip a lot of it in the same way I do all of WWE’s product. I watch it after NXT. I don’t put a penny into the pockets of AEW. I’d hardly say I’ve got a horse in the race.

There’s plenty that sucks on both shows (I personally couldn’t give a shit about Moxley for a start).

Yeah he's meshed well with Sabian pretty quickly in terms of their characters but his current angle feels more like early Dark Order territory.

Probably going to stumble along until it hits that wedding moment and then the angle sinks or swims afterwards.

Dark Order's storyline only really started to turn around for the better when the "Join the Dark Order" vignettes started to air. Then it hit a big stumbling block due to AEW pulling the trigger too fast on their big moment and had to get course corrected afterwards.

I like Sabian and Miro together. I don't care for this best man gimmick. It's weird and I don't see the endgame. I think the idea of not immediately pushing him to the moon is fine. But the current storyline is meh so far. I'd have liked it better if he was hired muscle.

Moxley's reign has been mostly unforgettable. I would like to think it would be better if it wasn't for the pandemic, but I can't make a single good promo he has given, and he has done all the same goofy shut he hated so much. Tricking Jericho out of a car, a eye patch gimmick, a different injury angle that wrote him off TV right after he won the title, being off a few weeks a different time because of covid, and a bunch of matches that didn't feel like he was in any real danger.

Jericho was awesome as champion, everything he did felt big. Nothing Moxley has some since winning the title has felt any more important than when he was Intercontinental Champion in WWE.

Moxley proved how overhyped he is way back in 2016.

Kip and Miro together is fine. I just hope they don’t make Miro the dumb muscle like Wardlow and Hager. We all know he’s well beyond that in his career and it would be a huge step backwards for him.

Only two types of people would have this opinion of Moxley:
1) Those that haven't bothered to see his any work after he left WWE
2) Those who are willfully ignorant and pick and choose stuff just to conform to their negative views of him.

Maybe three types if you include those who didn't bother to care about anything he's mentioned about his time in WWE since he laid out the issues he had with the company that affected his work there and why he left when he did.

Get off the shaft, Smeat. He shat the bed in 2016 with Brock, with Jericho, with Austin and got outshined by Styles. He's shat the bed in AEW. He's boring as fuck and a wannabe bad-ass that can't sell or throw a good working punch.

There are two types of people who present this underdeveloped opinion of Moxley as fact:

1) People who are so far up Meltzer's ass that they don't have any critical faculties of their own.

2) Modern fans without any sense of taste that are making it harder and harder for new people to get into wrestling.

Fuck you, Smeat.

In the minority, but I loved his WWE feud with Jericho

That's fair, but at least you admit that you are in the minority and are not airbrushing history and making it all WWE's fault and it was actually really good just because Jon Moxley was in it and Jon Moxley is awesome, because he says so and explained why it wasn't his fault he sucked on a podcast.

He basically had the same feud with Jericho in AEW, but with a car instead of a pot plant.

AEW uploaded the first Dynamite to YouTube... almost forgot how much of a huge difference the crowd makes :(

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Riho ruled

What a great show and great ending (surprise debut of Hager and formation of the Inner Circle)

I had a blast being there live. I almost want to get tix for the anniversary show in Jax next week but short notice screwed me over since I have a doctor apt and I wouldn't be able to leave til late Monday.

Full Gear a few weeks later was much better live too.

What are you referring to? I don't remember him talking about WWE at all since he left.

Oh and by "at all" I mean he hasn't stopped crying about it in every interview or podcast he has done for the last 18 months.

It's almost like Tony Khan has given a specific directive to about a dozen people (no matter what, be sure to say how bad it is to work for WWE, but how AEW is the bestest job you ever had).

Its like people get mad that they are happier elsewhere. Shit jobs happen. Something better comes along, it is easy to look back at the toxic environment left behind and remember things like that.

Strange to me also that people pay attention to something they dislike so much.

Wrestling fans follow wrestling. More bad wrestling flooding the marketplace is a bad idea. I can’t believe some people still can’t get this.

Some people enjoy it, I can't believe some people still can't get this.

Most people don't. I can't believe some people still can't get this.

Some people do. I can't believe some people still can't get this.

Sure, play to the 5%. That’s smart.

Except it's all just a big sell job. Moxley is they perfect example, he talks about how horrible WWE was with "goofy shit", and now he is liberated and free, and he just does the same goofy shit. I guess as long as he is doing it on his own it's ok.

Look at the first episode of Dynamite, he gets in the ring and does a bunch of weird shit with his face, brawls with Kenny, and uses a bunch of gimmicked props.

He had a whole angle where he was acting goofy while pretending to join inner circle, only to go "nah joking", then stole a car.

Remember when Dean Ambrose stole Seth Rollins MITB contract? That was goofy shit! A car though, that is changing wrestling!

He is the same guy he always was, except now he talks about how he hated being that same guy in WWE, because WWE.

They all say the same shit, Moxley, Brodie, Spears, Miro, Ryder, FTR, and on and on and on.

Maybe they all really did hate WWE, but how long does that have to be their gimmick? Moxley has been gone from WWE for like 19 months, why is he still ALWAYS talking about them? How many interviews is enough? How many podcasts is enough?

Either it's a mandate from their boss to push that narrative, or they would just move on already.

Jericho and Moxley repeated their WWE feud in AEW. Now Jericho is going to do the same thing he did with Kevin Owens with MJF.

infuse it into your minds. in adam page, amen

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I normally don't agree with Noid but he's not far off with his AEW takes, just very annoying with them.

I haven't been able to get into anything Mox has done in AEW.

Jericho had an okay title run and has been insufferable since.

Orange Cassidy can be funny but his schtick gets old pretty fast.

Kenny Omega has been a pretty big flop.

Theyve turned Adam page into a stupid depressed drunk instead of a badass beer drinker like Steve Austin.

The lucha bros do the same fucking thing evevery match.

The young bucks have been ok but I expected more from them.

Mjf is great but they don't do anything with him.

Darby allin is great but he seems to get hurt pretty often.

Cage could be good but he does the same thing everyone else does.

Lance archer could be good but he does the same thing every match and they make his big man-little man matches go way too long

Dark order is garbage. Idk how to feel about brodie, his matches go way too long too.

Cody is pretty good most of the time.

Most of the womens division sucks. Shida is alright. Everywomens match goes to long and exposes their inexperience.

Every match in general goes too long. Every once in a while they'll put on a banger but for the most part every match is 10-15 min too long.

I do like the unscripted promos. Thats a breath of fresh air.

Dark is the worst show in wrestling and I wish they woyld pull the plug on it. Every match is 10 minutes of Indy going thru the motions sloppy garbage. And they just keep making it longer and longer.

Right now every wwe show is better than dynamite. Even raw.

Nothing wrong with any of this. It just isn't "for you".





100% nothing wrong with anyone's takes, honestly. It's the fact that people's opinions are not facts, yet are touted as such.


While it may be shit, or it may be great, there are people on both sides of the fence. Shitting on others for their enjoyment is what I find weird. Purposely seeking out things you (or anyone) dislike, and then shitting on anyone who dare disagrees with an opinion is just weird. Seems easily avoidable to me, I dunno.

Oh yeah, completely agree, no idea why he just constantly comes in here to say the same things over and over. Get a life dude. It's been years of you doing this shit now

You’re really comparing sliming a guy when he opens a briefcase like a 90s Nickelodeon bit to him tricking Jericho into thinking he joined The Inner Circle only to swerve him and take the car he bribed him with as equal on the “goofy shit” scale.

You reach SO fucking bad. It’s insane.