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ron the dial 02-15-2023 03:38 PM

“Ring of Honor TV is coming Thursday, March 2 on HonorClub,” says Khan. “We’ll have our first tapings on Feb. 25 and 26 at Universal Studios in Orlando, and we’re going to put tickets on sale for the inaugural taping on Thursday. Those will be the first-ever tapings of the new Ring of Honor.

https://www.si.com/wrestling/2023/02...date-honorclub

ron the dial 02-15-2023 03:40 PM

will be interesting to see if this keeps ROH matches off of AEW entirely or if they keep a certain spotlight on ROH to try and move those honor club subs. i'm assuming it's a sub thing? never been to the site before...

Lock Jaw 02-15-2023 05:28 PM

Would be "funny" if he just has a bunch of "AEW matches" on the ROH shows

Defend all the AEW belts, why not

drave 02-15-2023 05:57 PM

tv deal imminent???!!?!

Mr. Nerfect 02-16-2023 04:03 PM

There is absolutely no point to ROH still existing.

slik 02-17-2023 07:32 PM

AEW has announced more Dynamites for TX and FL...

xrodmuc316 02-17-2023 09:53 PM

This is a 40 year old man :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You're a fraud <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@arielhelwani</a>. You're as legitimate of a reporter as <a href="https://twitter.com/tonyschiavone24?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tonyschiavone24</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1626762621990076421?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Vastardikai 02-17-2023 10:03 PM

Ol' Twitterfingers gonna Twitterfinger.

slik 02-17-2023 11:56 PM

Very accurate


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Lock Jaw 02-18-2023 12:00 AM

lolAEW

Vastardikai 02-18-2023 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5602104)
lolAEW

I still prefer AEWTF

XL 02-18-2023 06:01 AM

The never-ending Jericho programmes are a turn off.

XL 02-18-2023 12:42 PM

The only “bad take” from that list is the HOOK one. It’s been well established here that holding a title but barely defending it and never appearing on a premium event is a good thing. So they are way off base with that one!

Bad News Gertner 02-18-2023 02:34 PM

I was actually just thinking the other day while flipping through Twitter that we haven't had any Tony Khan cattiness on Twitter lately.

Frank Drebin 02-18-2023 04:27 PM

All he needs is a little push....

#1-norm-fan 02-18-2023 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5573836)
For those wondering, AEW has 0 deals in Australia, because it isn’t very good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5579718)
AEW doesn’t even have TV in Australia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5580627)
I’m in Australia. AEW does not have a TV deal over here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5515062)
they don’t even have a slot in Australia, which is a pretty big market to miss out on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5555817)
AEW doesn’t have a TV deal in Australia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5539732)
AEW don’t even have a TV deal in Australia because NO ONE GIVES A FUCK.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN to Broadcast All Elite Wrestling (AEW) Exclusively in Australia, New Zealand and Pacific Islands <a href="https://t.co/wFDyIOviX4">pic.twitter.com/wFDyIOviX4</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1623865875941015552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RIP Noid

oof.

Mr. Nerfect 02-18-2023 06:01 PM

AEW is a joke. Tony Khan is a mess.

#1-norm-fan 02-18-2023 06:54 PM

:lol:

xrodmuc316 02-18-2023 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 5602103)
Very accurate


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There is so much wrong with AEW that only like half of that dude's post is visible lol

xrodmuc316 02-18-2023 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 5602135)
All he needs is a little push....

That push was apparently watching Smackdown, because FEDBAD, and seeing the Interviewer who said Tony was a bad interview because he wouldn't answer anything, being on Smackdown in his hometown. That is literally it, Ariel is a fraud because he appeared on WWE Smackdown. It could have been worse though, I mean what if WWE starts having wrestlers name their moves after him?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Cole
OHHHHHH MY it is the ARIELPLEX!!!!


Sepholio 02-18-2023 07:04 PM

HELWANIBOMB FROM THE TOP TURNBUCKLE MY GOD IVE NEVER SEEN SUCH DESTRUCTION

Sepholio 02-18-2023 07:33 PM

LOL Ariel getting a big segment on EC preshow rn. Love it.

xrodmuc316 02-18-2023 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5602161)
LOL Ariel getting a big segment on EC preshow rn. Love it.

Tiny is losing his mind somewhere right now lol

drave 02-19-2023 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5602138)
ESPN to Broadcast All Elite Wrestling (AEW) Exclusively in Australia, New Zealand and Pacific Islands pic.twitter.com/wFDyIOviX4
— All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) February 10, 2023
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RIP Noid

oof.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5602149)
AEW is a joke. Tony Khan is a mess.




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screech 02-19-2023 10:23 AM

I love how Noid was bragging about AEW not being on TV in Australia like anyone outside of Australia gave a shit lol

#1-norm-fan 02-19-2023 11:36 AM

If AEW can’t work out a way to bring back Punk and make money off of a rare instance of legit heat then wrestling is officially dead. Do the right thing, Tony…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pepsi Phil better not have spent the $94 he owes Danhausen on New Japan tickets</p>&mdash; Danhausen (@DanhausenAD) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanhausenAD/status/1627171965873057792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We need Punk vs Danhausen!

XL 02-19-2023 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5602335)
I love how Noid was bragging about AEW not being on TV in Australia like anyone outside of Australia gave a shit lol

Be fair to the guy, he only mentioned it once or twice…

Jordan 02-19-2023 11:40 AM

Nobody brings together the starts of ROH from 20 years ago like Tony!

Corporate CockSnogger 02-19-2023 01:30 PM

AEW has definitely got worse over time. I’ve gone from watching the show in full, to having it on in the background while doing other things, to skipping half the matches as they introduced and focused on too many uninteresting people, to the point now where I skip every single match, just watching the promos and the endings of the matches out of hope a good story starts up and it becomes quite good again

Corporate CockSnogger 02-19-2023 01:34 PM

The next ppv could again be a really good card of 7-8 matches at most with lots of grudge matches and matches that make sense, even if the builds haven’t been great.

MJF v Danielson
Mox v Hangman
Tag title match
Christian v Jungle Boy
Wardlow v Samoa Joe
Whatever they do with the womens match

Keep it tight and with storylines that matter and more importantly, keep it within a reasonable run time.

But instead they’ll squeeze out every Orange Cassidy, Hook, Jay Lethal level wrestler on their roster into the ppv and have a run time of 6 hours.

Corporate CockSnogger 02-19-2023 01:36 PM

Having trios titles and tag team titles is so stupid. Automatically reduces the depth of both divisions, since any trios teams they have are just an established team + a friend.

Scrap the trios belts, put them in the bin.

Corporate CockSnogger 02-19-2023 01:46 PM

Scrap Jade Cargills belt too. Have Ruby Soho join the WWE girls side, so Britt and Hayter have a surprise AEW original partner. Jade comes out and breaks Sarayas neck so we never have to see or hear her again.

Then you move towards a Jade/Hayter powerhouse feud with them respecting each other. Britt can either cost Hayter the belt and Jade carries on the streak, or Britt costs Jade the belt and her streak because she wants to beat Hayter for the belt. Or you have a three way feud, plenty of options.

Just bring Jade into the fold and get rid of her pointless belt.

Mr. Nerfect 02-19-2023 03:36 PM

LolAEW

screech 02-19-2023 05:08 PM

The trios belts and TBS title seem to exist independently of everything else on the show. P useless tbh

Mr. Nerfect 02-19-2023 05:10 PM

Is the All-Atlantic belt still around?

screech 02-19-2023 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corporate CockSnogger (Post 5602345)

Keep it tight and with storylines that matter and more importantly, keep it within a reasonable run time.

But instead they’ll squeeze out every Orange Cassidy, Hook, Jay Lethal level wrestler on their roster into the ppv and have a run time of 6 hours.

I feel like this is a problem in modern rasslin. The company thinks cramming as many people onto the card as possible means the show will be great.

Mr. Nerfect 02-20-2023 10:55 AM

WWE have moved away from that over the past 18 months or so. Now their shows often have like 6 matches.

Tom Guycott 02-20-2023 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5602365)
I feel like this is a problem in modern rasslin. The company thinks cramming as many people onto the card as possible means the show will be great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5602387)
WWE have moved away from that over the past 18 months or so. Now their shows often have like 6 matches.

Two extremes of a similar problem.

Going back in time quite a bit, part of the reason for Smackdown! even coming into existence... shit, part of the reason why RAW went from one hour to two permanantly was to get more people on TV and supposedly get more of them over. But each time, what eventually happened was they would just feature the "over" people for longer periods of time. One hour RAW used to have 3-4 matches. Then, they'd do the occasional "extra hour" and bump up to about 6 or 7. After the two hours became permanant, they somehow trickled back down to about 4 matches, and got in more skits and commercials. Current 3 hour RAW is now about the same content wise as the original 1 hour RAW. The only thing that salvages Smackdown (which at one point suffered the same fate, just on a different day) is that they're still doing the brand split, so there are at least different people there, but it's still pretty much the same people week to week with nearly ceaseless, overproduced talking.

AEW, on the other hand, will overexpose 1 or two "hot, new" talent, but still rotate a cast of about 1/3 of their very bloated roster on Dynamite, and a different 1/3 on Rampage with no rhyme or reason and end up making EVERYONE white noise- expendable and interchangable and just there. They supposedly try to make you care about someone, then that someone disappears for months at a time. Poof, just suddenly not on TV anymore. While there's (comparably) less talking than WWE, they also skimp on the storytelling period. X and Y have a match. Excalibur mentions that they had a match 7 years ago in Japan. Y beats X, and you never hear about either of them having any history ever again. Y might get two more wins on TV like he's building to some sort of title match feud, then fucks off for six months. Nobody's even asking where Y is after a couple weeks, because nobody remembers Y works for AEW.

So you end up with either something like WWE with the whole Bloodline thing (not knocking it because it's entertaining and intriguing, but the point of this is to illustrate exactly how much time that particular drama eats up multiple segments of TV time every week when it doesn't need to and still get the same positive response), or AEW with clusterfucks upon clusterfucks of random people, random stables, matches, and titles that makes the East Palestine Train Derailment* look like a two car fender bender.

There's got to be a happy medium where Vince's folks showcase a little more than the same 10 people between 2-3 hours of commercial breaks that might have some matches in between because "ugh, I guess we have to this is obstensibly a wrestling program", and where Tony pops a little more Ritalin and maybe pares down the scope instead of splooging interchangeable folks having 15 minutes bouts everywhere all the time to where nobody has the ability to care about any of them.

*I'm kinda tired of people saying "Ohio Train Fire". Way too impersonal, like the place is too nondescript to even mention. Just say the name of the town like pretty much any other disaster... but maybe I feel that way because it's about 20 miles from me.

Tom Guycott 02-21-2023 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5602363)
The trios belts and TBS title seem to exist independently of everything else on the show. P useless tbh

Prob'ly for two different reasons.

I wonder if Jade is just making the best of being there and counting the days down until she's a free agent? She seems like there wasn't really any actual plans for her in any meaningful way after Mr. & Mrs. Rhodes departed from the company, and any "serious" competition she was being groomed to go up against pretty much either got hurt (Statlander) or departed (Thunder Rosa), and there wasn't anything else on the slate for her without those matchups happening when they should have.

As for the Trios, I'm kinda torn. While I agree it's yet another stupid auxillary title, it serves a purpose of keeping The Young Bucks away from everything else, and gives them their own little belts to be marks for. Even if they're kings of a non-existant division or chasing for the crown of the same non-existant division, they can "kill the business" in their own little corner all they want. They've already proven that's all they wanted to be in charge of the tag division for - to have potential "dream matches" against FTR (hot off buzz... to go over) and a reunited Hardy Boyz (hot off buzz...to go over, if they had the chance to), and sign a bunch of other nobody tag teams who can have a Young Bucks type of match (like that one Chineese team signed at the beginning of AEW that was "the tag team of the future"... remember them?!?)... and go over them. If they were focused on the actual tag division, we'd get Austin and Colton counting lights for them, the Acclaimed wouldn't have had the chance to shine as much because Castor's raps would be getting inturrupted and one-upped by the Jackson boys, and any other tag teams, real or imagined, would just be stepping stones for them to have an annual winning record on their entrance lower third instead of MAKING any of those teams in any meaningful way to advance the industry, thus PROVING they're the greatest tag team ever :roll: like they "humbly" present themselves as despite having the exact same match since they were "Generation Me" in TNA (prob'ly longer, but that was the first time I actually saw them... and even back then that shit got repetitive and stale pretty quick).

Lock Jaw 02-21-2023 01:34 AM

They should unify all the tiles and put it all on Christian Cage.

Problem solved.


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