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Seanny One Ball 09-24-2022 06:25 PM

Tried to watch the Rob Zombie “Munsters” and it made me feel ill.
Seasick specifically.

It’s totally bad.
It is not The Munsters.

Seanny One Ball 09-24-2022 06:28 PM

The colours are insane…the set design and outfits are fucking bonkers too but at least in black and white they would have looked fantastic.

Rob Zombie is a franchise destroyer.
He cannot be trusted with beloved old media.
He ruins it.

Seanny One Ball 09-24-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5578302)
Rashomon (1950) - 10/10

I think im a believer i Kurwasawa. I watched Seven Samuri last night/this morning (went to bed at intermission.) Great film but i wanted to see how it stacked up against his non action films. Seven Samuri is a great action. Its the kind of film ive seen from Kurwasawa in the past. Rashomon, while set in the same period, is a psychological thriller about truth and perspective.

These more serious films, even though Seven Samuri does have a serious point to make, are much much better.

This film centers around a man who finds a body in the woods and the trial that follows. Turns out a bandit came across a man and wife in the woods, fell upon them and raped the woman. The film plays out through flash backs of 4 first hand accounts of the same crime.

SPOILER: show
What's so good is all 4 accounts weigh emotional truth vs factual truth. And while all 4 accounts are lies they paint the hearts and egos of the tellers. In the end we dont have a clear picture of the truth. We have a clear picture of how each person felt and sometimes thats all we get.


Outstanding film.


Watch the Paul Newman version please.
It’s obviously not as good but the performance is arguably better.
It’s the darkest Paul Newman film besides Hombre.

Destor 09-24-2022 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5579857)
Charlie Sheen is out of his league between Dafoe and Berenger in Platoon. Even the supporting actors regularly lead him as performers, but that’s the whole point really. Charlie Sheen is supposed to look out of his depth and outclassed at every turn. Sadly he literally is in terms of acting quality and that’s where Destor gets it spot on.
That was an excellent review but I disagree with the rating, though I fully understand your position on it.

The i think on it the less credible i find it. Sheenis the stand in for Stone himself. The sheen character finds his CO to be a scum bag of the highest order and kills him for it. How much of that is Stone thought his CO was a dick so he wrote a script where his CO was a monster of the highest order and then finally gets his win by killing him on the page? The whole thing feels weirdly dishonest and that was the opposite of what i expected from it.

Destor 09-24-2022 09:49 PM

Same title?

Helmsphere 09-25-2022 12:12 AM

Orphan: First Kill: 7.5/10

The first one hit us with a huge plot twist, second one hits because they they put her with a family just as eff up as her.

I haven't hated Julia Stiles this much since cheating on Bradley Cooper in Silver Lining Playbook, I mean Jesus I'm straight and I would polish prime Bradley Cooper off.

Lock Jaw 09-26-2022 01:10 AM

RRR - 9/10

Pretty epic.... pretty long but didn't feel it.

Lock Jaw 09-26-2022 09:36 PM

Top Gun: Maverick - 8.5/10

If it had more singing/dancing interludes it could have been 9/10 like RRR.

Destor 09-26-2022 10:07 PM

You have my attention

Destor 09-27-2022 12:01 AM

Hidden Fortress (1958) - 8/10

The film doesnt have as much to say as the deeper films in the Kurwasawa catalog but its not voiceless. Visually its very interesting. The framing is perfect nearly always. Thats been a big treat for me watching his films the last month or so is this lost art of wide shots not overly edited.

Another common strand is his use of perspective. Most of his films toys with it in some fashion. With Rashomon its the central narrative and with Ikiru its through multiple perspectives that the third act is laid out. Yojimbo and Sanjuro both use it in similar ways. Yojimbo allows you to piece together the towns politics through infiltration of both sides. Sanjuro twists that slightly but its very similar in concept. With Hidden Fortress we have a zeppo story that has us follow characters that the story isnt about.

That said this is up there for me with Seven Samurai and Yojimbo/Sanjuro. It doesnt break through the bar set by his more serious pictures but its still outstanding and worth seeing for anyone who loves the medium of film.

rez 09-29-2022 09:44 PM

Sissy on Shudder. I'm probably the only one with a sub for it but I'll give it a 6.5/10

Very trippy movie... very different to see the social commentary it brought.

Mental health, murder, and LGBT can be bullies, too.

etc.

rez 09-29-2022 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rez (Post 5580889)
Sissy on Shudder. I'm probably the only one with a sub for it but I'll give it a 6.5/10

Very trippy movie... very different to see the social commentary it brought.

Mental health, murder, and LGBT can be bullies, too.

etc.

It isn't a conservative movie if that's what I'm describing it as. It's just what a modern movie should be like with out all the politics. Horror is always pretty progressive.


Lock Jaw 10-01-2022 12:50 AM

DC League of Superpets - 4/10

Not sure why/how this exists.... but it could have been a lot of fun. It was not.

Destor 10-02-2022 01:26 AM

Saló Or: 120 Days of Sodom (1975) - NR

A different kind of horror film. A film that uses a paper thin allegory to paint a truly hideous vision of fascism. Reasonably considered pornographic the film pushes every boundary possible to illustrate its rage against the social order in a way that only a post ww2 Italy could. The film essentially is the famous Aristocrats joke but played with out the laugh track.

What leaves me unable to rate the film is i truly dont know how to fee about it. Its message is illuminated clearly for anyone with a brain in their heads but its so incredibly difficult to view. To that end there was an entire sequence i literally couldnt watch and nearly got sick with just the implication of it. I cant fault the film because it's doing exactly what it aimed to do. To make me uncomfortable. The film unquestionably highlights how the writer was made to feel using the most profane metaphors possible. But i cant view it. And since i cant i cant rate it.

It is excellent. It is horrific. It will stick with me.

Seanny One Ball 10-02-2022 10:40 AM

It’s definitely not excellent. If you want excellence you skip to the wedding night rape-fisting scene in Caligula.

Destor 10-02-2022 11:08 AM

Strongly disagree but i wont debate it. I can see the contention.

Seanny One Ball 10-02-2022 11:53 AM

I dislike it for aesthetic, not moral reasons.

Where was the joy?

Destor 10-02-2022 02:35 PM

There is none and if thats the metric you're seeking you wont find it in Salo. And i respect that desire. Im a seeker of truth and i think there's a lot here.

Seanny One Ball 10-02-2022 05:48 PM

All of that debauchery and not one sadist matched up with a masochist?

They ate shit together!

Seanny One Ball 10-02-2022 05:49 PM

I think we can both agree that it’s an impossible wank

Destor 10-02-2022 09:34 PM

A Serious Man (2009)- 6/10

Im rating this lower because thats my grasp on a first viewing. I think the film is much better but its so deliberately steeped in jewish culture that there's a complete aspect of the film i dont have a handle on. I dont think it makes the film bad it makes my take on the film bad. It isnt intended for me, presently at least.

SPOILER: show
Ultimately this is a Job story. And on that level i get it fairly plainly. As i type this im still working out things so this might get very convoluted. The symbolism is where i think a lot of the depth is. The protagonist is a mathematician. Which is a person who understands things and minutiae of them.

The first time we meet him he's doing a lecture explaining Schrodinger's equation. A student fails the midderm on the topic and says to the extent "i understood the cat its the math i dont get." To which the protag replies "its about the math no one understands the cat." He understands the how but the metaphysical is lost on him. This scene is the film laid bare i think. Inside this scene he also lays out his moral paradigm which he will later betray.

There's also the trips to the Rabbis and i think both of them give us the morals truth as well. The protag is flummoxed by their responses. Finds them completely useless and the audience does too. The first tells him to look for God in the mundane. To appreciate it him through the eyes of an alien. The second tells a, long winded and highly entertaining, story about a dentist. At the end the protag asks what was the point of the story. The rabbi is befuddled by the inquiry and shruggingly says "doing good couldnt hurt?" As if he'd genuinely never considered there was a point in the first place.

So when we arrive at the climax and the protag, in an attempt to climb out the ever deepening hole life is digging for him, betrays his morals it brings the truest wrath. The point is the same here as it is in Job. Do good for goodness sake; not for reward. This film then says and dont do evil; or else.

And in that:

A Serious Man (2009) - 7/10

drave 10-03-2022 09:55 AM

Haven't seen it, but apparently one of the lead actors is upset that Bro's didn't do so well.


Naturally, it's because "straight people didn't show up."




Question though......


With the gay community being "one of the marginalized" communities, do said communities automagically expect those "on the outside" to give them attention because they yell for it or???


I don't mean this in a bad spirited kinda way..... but like, maybe if the movie was humorous in a funny way and not just "stereotypical gay jokes" it would be better??


Also heard poo poo'ing on the side of the dude trying to say it was 'historic" for a gay movie...... but like....


The Birdcage?
To Wong Fu: Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar?




there's more, but both of those movies are fucking outstanding.


The "outrage" from the dude and saying "the straight people didn't come to see" just....



YOU'RE NOT FUCKING FUNNY K?

Seanny One Ball 10-03-2022 03:11 PM

I’m not watching films about men ass fucking

drave 10-03-2022 03:25 PM

mmhmm. apparently we're part of the problem?

Seanny One Ball 10-03-2022 04:26 PM

I’d watch two women doing it, I’m broad minded like that.

I just think if you watch a couple of gay guys for too long you start to smell cum everywhere. Like when you walk your dog through an area with linden trees.

rez 10-03-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5581427)
I’m not watching films about men ass fucking

When life imitates art

Blonde Moment 10-03-2022 07:16 PM

Temptation perhaps?

Destor 10-04-2022 09:52 PM

Ed Wood - 4/10


Fine? As far as achieving an aesthetic vision the film meets its goals both visually and in the performances but it just doesnt do anything. None of the characters achieve a meaningful arc and most dont have any arc to speak of. Its not bad its just... a bread sandwich. Looks nice enough at a glance until you realize there's nothing in it.

Sepholio 10-04-2022 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rez (Post 5580889)
Sissy on Shudder. I'm probably the only one with a sub for it but I'll give it a 6.5/10

Very trippy movie... very different to see the social commentary it brought.

Mental health, murder, and LGBT can be bullies, too.

etc.

Man I've been thinking about at least getting a sub to shudder for a little while for like 3 years just to see Blood Machines lol

Sepholio 10-04-2022 11:37 PM

I think the same guy upset over Bros (I might be wrong cuz I suddenly cannot remember the name, but he was a main role in Bros) not doing well went off about how it's not right for Brendan Fraser to be in The Whale because he's straight and not fat and they could have gotten a fat gay guy to play the role better.....

I think he just walked into a trap of backlash he isn't ready for with that one.

Sepholio 10-04-2022 11:38 PM

Guy Branum is the dude I'm talking about upset at Brendan. Think he's the same one drave referenced.

Sepholio 10-04-2022 11:41 PM

Screw it, starting a new tradition of signing up for Shudder in October every year. Blood Machines it is.

Destor 10-04-2022 11:45 PM

The Master (2012) - 8/10

This film is incredibly deep and is a film I'll inevitably peel layers off over repeated viewings over my lifetime. In one viewing I'm completely incapable of sussing out its deeper meaning. There is one there but its out of my grasp. As that process goes on this could easily, and likely, be much better than an 8.

Ill focus on what its obtainable. There are few finer films for actors to act. Jaiquin Pheonix, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Amy Adams, Rami Malek and Jesse Plemmons. Really talent all. Pheonix Hoffman and Adams all have the most room to move around in and they all deliver in big ways.

The film is beautifully shot. One scene i found particularly striking was a scene in a jail cell. Shot is slightly angled in just a way we cant see as much as we want and just far enough away creating this voyeuristic visual tension where we feel like we're eavesdropping all the while eagerly wanting to overhear more. The film is full of these kinds of moments where the camera is used in a way that adds a lot to the scenes.

The surface level plot is very interesting with L Ron Hubbard derivative and in that role Haffman is as compelling as it gets. The relationship between Pheonix and Haffmans characters is dynamic and compelling and think on a metaphorical level they might be the same person, but again im no where near able to really analyze it deeply at all.

Strong film. I wish i could go deeper with it but i dont think its meant to be digested in one sitting, and at the very least i wasnt able to do it.

Destor 10-04-2022 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5581696)
I think the same guy upset over Bros (I might be wrong cuz I suddenly cannot remember the name, but he was a main role in Bros) not doing well went off about how it's not right for Brendan Fraser to be in The Whale because he's straight and not fat and they could have gotten a fat gay guy to play the role better.....

I think he just walked into a trap of backlash he isn't ready for with that one.

Actors acting like things they arent??? HATE CRIME

Destor 10-05-2022 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5409077)
wonderwoman taught me women can rape and its ok

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5409096)
Only if they are hot though

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Originally Posted by slik (Post 5409201)
There isn't rape in WW84, that'a dumb argument I keep seeing pop up.

Two characters slept next to each other in a bed, there wasn't a sex scene.

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5409246)
if you actually think that youre an idiot

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5409251)
if two characters kiss and the camera pans up and the next scene theyre naked in bed thats what we called an implied sex scene and has existed in film for about 100 years

I think about this string of posts sometimes

Lock Jaw 10-05-2022 12:36 AM

slik demands to see the penetration

Destor 10-05-2022 12:38 AM

I would watch that movie

poopfromweiner dude 10-05-2022 05:24 AM

My orientation is ambiguous but I intend on seeing Bros in theater next week,,,love that guy,,bill from the street. Y’all ever watch

poopfromweiner dude 10-05-2022 05:27 AM

I saw Barbarian also a few week ago and it was bad???

Okay I guess it was “okayish”, horror is my 2nd least favorite genre only ahead of “stupid ass comic book movies”

I guess there were some parts I liked though

If I were that chick I would have totally hooked up with Keith after he waited to open the wine bottle

drave 10-05-2022 08:36 AM

I kinda wanna see Amsterdam


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