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Originally Posted by Nicky Fives
Pretty sure once he hits the main roster, it won't be too hard to change his name to "The Velveteen Dream" Patrick Clark or whatever dumb shorter version Vince deems fit....
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Vince would likely shorten it to "Velvet".
Velvet vs Almas for the US Championship at Backlash.
I still don't think it's that bad anymore, and I hated it when I first heard it myself. And
someone here nitpicked about about Scott Steiner like I figured would happen, instead of just taking the point about "Big Poppa Pump" simply being a fucking stupid collection of words bestowed upon a man. Marketable, yes. Memorable, absolutely. Also, dreadful and absurd.
Velveteen Dream is something that gets less cringeworthy upon repetition. To some of us, moreso than others. It is a dumbass name, but a dumbass name that works. If that shit gets nearly as over on the main roster* as in NXT, nobody will see him any other way for the rest of his goddamn life.
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if they don't job him to death or leave him off TV for weeks at a time. Misuse would be the first hurdle for how big he can become.
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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One
Meh. This is the more common thought process (particularly on here) then just flat out admitting the guy isn't great.
Remember, he started under the tutelage of JR. Maybe he'd have been alright and as I've said, he's passable when he's "unchained". But he's no authority and is frankly just quite rigid.
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I wasn't saying he's the best thing ever. I'm saying his "atrociousness" is overblown. It isn't an all-or-nothing thing. I remember a long number of years ago when someone around here said Big Show has the charisma of "an old boot" (yes, I was around back then, but more occasionally lurking than anything else). This was still when he was solidly in the constraints of being a generic giant. It wasn't until an SNL appearance years later until people got to see otherwise, and in turn, he actually got put in positions to show more of himself in WWE.
He might have been mentored by JR, but he doesn't have the leeway JR has in the booth. That's akin to someone being mentored on the stick by Paul Heyman; Paul E is one of the best who ever did it, but he pretty much also has carte blance to say whatever the fuck he wants. Joe Blow NXT callup most likely won't have such a luxury. If he had the ability to consistently do over the years what he did on A Beast In The East or post production redubs with Tazz during the Heyman run of Smackdown, there might be a higher opinion of him now.
Renee Young is okay, but dramatically less so when it literally sounds like she's getting fed what she's supposed to say word for word with pauses in between one cringy statement to the next just long enough to be the next line for her to repeat. Not saying she's the next Heenan, but pretty sure her stock would rise if she were allowed to ginuinely react and speak about the matches she's supposedly watching and commentating on. It doesn't mean
she's terrible, but it does mean she doesn't get to work on becoming better.
The bigger problem is that WWE needs to ease up on trying to create human teleprompters for shit writing for all facets of talent.