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Old 06-29-2011, 03:39 PM   #1
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Doesn't have to be at Mania, could be at Summerslam maybe.
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:42 PM   #2
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Doing it before Mania takes away from Cena vs Rock in my opinion.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:24 PM   #3
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Doing it before Mania takes away from Cena vs Rock in my opinion.
Was abit fucked while typing last night so got abit confused when responding to your post,lol. I was actually talking about sometime after next years WM.
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:43 PM   #4
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True, that's the annoying thing.
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:55 PM   #5
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:05 PM   #6
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Punk will never be a babyface like the Rock was.

Punk is a jerk. He's an asshole. Pandering doesn't fit him. It doesn't work. If he's ever going to be a face and work, it'll have to be Austin style... He's not going to get over by playing up to the crowd and playing sing-a-long, he'll get over by calling people on their bullshit, taking the piss out of them, and calling it like he sees it.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:05 PM   #7
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Punk will never be a babyface like the Rock was.

Punk is a jerk. He's an asshole. Pandering doesn't fit him. It doesn't work. If he's ever going to be a face and work, it'll have to be Austin style... He's not going to get over by playing up to the crowd and playing sing-a-long, he'll get over by calling people on their bullshit, taking the piss out of them, and calling it like he sees it.


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Old 06-29-2011, 04:11 PM   #8
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That's why the feud would be amazing.
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:19 PM   #9
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More fuel for the fire. Good stuff.
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:27 PM   #10
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Hey, check out the Randy Orton interview i posted, it runs about 40 mins, done the day of the first set of SD tapings before the tour over here. Its very good, very funny. Orton comes off well, very likeable
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:47 PM   #11
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:48 PM   #12
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Ah, I'm confused. Was that a shoot or what?
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:30 PM   #13
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Ah, I'm confused. Was that a shoot or what?
The fact that in a tirade that took aim at the biggest stars the company has, past and present, the company ethos, the boss, his daughter and son-in-law, amongst other things, the only word censored was "douchbag" kinda gives it away.
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:49 PM   #14
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or what more than likely
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:50 PM   #15
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Yes, complete 100% shoot. It just took them 6 minutes to figure out how to cut his mic.
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Yes, complete 100% shoot. It just took them 6 minutes to figure out how to cut his mic.
Forgive me, I don't really watch WWE or wrestling at all anymore. I know it wasn't a total shoot, rather a "shoot-style" promo, I just wasn't sure if he legitimately "took it too far" and got carried away and went off script and that's why they cut his mic. It was just strange hearing him specifically mention other promotions and take some pretty serious shots at people which is why I asked.
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:53 PM   #17
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HAHA Nice. Junior member, know your role
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:07 PM   #18
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HAHA Nice. Junior member, know your role
Who, this guy? Nah, he's been around forever dude, just hasn't posted in a looooooooooooooong time.
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:56 PM   #19
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:37 PM   #20
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Is that what they censored? I was wondering what the hell he said.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:17 PM   #21
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The Rock is starting to sound like the old WCW guys, all about who draws the money. Also, he is sounding like the old guys like Dusty Rhodes who sit at the round table.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:18 PM   #22
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Old 06-30-2011, 01:34 AM   #23
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Check out the front page of TPWW, there is shit about Punk's status and mention of Heyman and Lesnar.

And a follow up to it

http://www.wzronline.com/wrestling-n...-punk-wwe.html
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:06 AM   #24
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Off topic, but in regards to the Lesnar/Heyman deal, my guess would be some kind of Legends deal, or something that allows WWE to use their likenesses. Action figures? DVD? WWE 12 even?!
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Old 06-30-2011, 11:40 AM   #25
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Hahaha, I love CM Punk if it's true about him trying to get Colt a spot on the main roster.
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- Colt Cabana recently spoke with the Miami Herald about CM Punk leaving WWE, here are some comments from Cabana…
"From being laughed at by the trainers in Ohio Valley Wrestling to Paul [Heyman] finally bringing him up and everybody treating him like dirt, telling him he has an attitude problem and calling him the ‘King of the Indies,'. Just looking down on him, he just felt shunned his whole time there. It was a complete struggle."

"The power of him not really caring because he was ready to leave — I always said the power of not giving a s--- is so important. He is really at the point where he just wants to get out of there. It's too frustrating for him. If he said anything that made anybody mad, what are they going to do to him? Not re-sign him? He doesn't want to be there.

"So I think that idea is so powerful. He is so strong in his beliefs with the straight edge lifestyle. By being how strong headed that he is, he was able to have the power to go out on television and say what probably every other wrestler has wanted to say. He made unbelievable television. He made unbelievable history in wrestling.

"He almost has the ability to change professional wrestling as we know it. It has been so stagnant and vanilla. It kind of shook up the wrestling world because of his real life frustrations."
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:46 PM   #27
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As awesome as the promo was, I am starting to think people are throwing the words "historic" and "revolutionary" out there way too much.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:49 PM   #28
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Calm down Jimmy, don't get your panties in a bunch because he called Trips a doofus.
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Calm down Jimmy, don't get your panties in a bunch because he called Trips a doofus.

It was an awesome promo, but it wasn't "historic" or "revolutionary". It could lead to something "historic" or "revolutionary" but we said the same thing about the Nexus angle last year.
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It was an awesome promo, but it wasn't "historic" or "revolutionary". It could lead to something "historic" or "revolutionary" but we said the same thing about the Nexus angle last year.
I don't think we'll know the impact until after the PPV. If they play it right and do something with Punk taking the belt, then it might well be the next big thing. It's certainly not going to change the industry like Austin 316, the NWO, or Hulkamania; but it will be the angle of the year - perhaps even of the decade.

In reality, looking at the possible various outcomes, the smart money is on Cena winning and Punk saying goodbye, even if just for a short while. That would put a lid on this whole thing, and means you will be absolutely 100% right.
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I really want Punk to win and take the belt to ROH (obviously scripted, but to add to the storyline).

WWE worked with ECW in the 90's, so this isn't unbelievable.
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I really want Punk to win and take the belt to ROH (obviously scripted, but to add to the storyline).

WWE worked with ECW in the 90's, so this isn't unbelievable.
... and as a bookend to his departure for signing his WWE contract on the RoH belt.

Of course, you can have the requisite confrontation with the RoH World Champion, but that's not the important part of the following fantasy about the GOLDEN promo that would result:

He brings the WWE championship there, gets a heroes welcome, then immediately shits on the crowd talking about his doubters who said he couldn't do it, says he's the best and that this is proof, and that he came back to RoH not to defend the title, but just to rub in in all of their faces.

He could then go on to say he has a bargaining chip for a new contract with WWE. Vince doesn't want him throwing it in a garbage can like Madusa or denouncing it like Shane Douglas, and what he does with the belt depends on what Vince is willing to do for him. [/wishful thinking]

And he can do all this with the 'stache, dressed as Magnum CM. No, I'm not letting that go.
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My ideal booking goes like this:

1) Punk wins at the PPV. Immediately runs from the ring through the crowd to the outside to a waiting car, where he's driven off into the Chicago night. Why not have a cameo for Colt Cabana as the driver too?

2) Show ends with Cena looking shocked in the ring.

3) Following night on Raw, Vince announces that Cena and Punk are both gone from the WWE, and are not coming back. Any mention of either man is forbidden on television, the website or any other WWE medium.

He announces the start of a new era, and a tournament to crown a new champion with a new belt. The final will take place at the next PPV, Summerslam.

4) Punk "goes back" to ROH to a hero's welcome and forms an alliance with the Kings of Wrestling. He defends the WWE championship at shows. However, the WWE does not acknowledge this at all, and although there are obviously videos on youtube and mentions on forums, there is no official comment from the WWE.

5) At the finals, lets say between Del Rio and Big Show, Punk jumps the barrier and attacks both men with the old belt. A couple of guys from the back hit the ring. Punk clears a few of them but starts to get outnumbered before Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli also jump the barrier and fight them off.

As they the start to overpower the WWE guys, Cena's music hits and he rushes to the ring. But instead of decking Punk, Hero or Castagnoli; he teams with them a beats on the remaining WWE guys. Show ends with four men triumphant in the ring.

6) Next night on Raw, the show starts with the group in the ring. Punk says he called the WWE and said he'd come back and defend the belt one more time against someone of their choice, but on his terms and with his ROH guys as enforcers. He explains Hero and Castagnoli have his back, and they're here for one night only.

His reasoning for coming back is because he's CM Punk, and he can do whatever he wants, when he wants. Tonight Raw is CM Punk's playground and there's nothing the WWE can do.

Cena explains that he's with Punk because that speech he gave on the 27 June woke him up. He got into wrestling to be the best, not the most popular. When Punk beat him for the belt, he realised he wasn't the best. He tells the WWE Universe that the champ is here, and that the champ isn't him: it's CM Punk.

He confesses that he telephoned Punk and they reconciled, and hatched this plot. Cena says he doesn't hate his fans or his popularity, but it clouded his judgement and swelled his ego. It made his shallow and superficial, and distracted him from his goal of being the best wrestler the planet ever saw. He says he's going back to his roots, he's aligned himself with some of the best wrestlers in the world such as CM Punk, Hero and Castagnoli - and together, they will collectively be known as "The New Kings of Wrestling".

7) A match is booked for the championship, but under Punk's rules, and it's a triple threat with CM Punk and Cena versus any top babyface.

Cena helps Punk retain, while Hero and Castagnoli act as enforcers at ringside. A few run-ins from WWE guys, but the show ends with a simultaneous GTS and Attitude Adjustment in the ring from Punk and Cena.

8) The following week on Raw, "The New Kings" re-appear and admit that as the best in the world, they should be on the biggest stage in the world, and that stage is the WWE. They disclose that they have all signed with the WWE, but that their doing things their way.

Punk says he was rehired because the WWE admitted defeat and that there is only one true WWE championship - the one in his possession. The tournament to crown a new championship was, and he quotes, "in desperation". To restore some prestige to Raw, the WWE had to swallow their pride and rehire Punk.

Cena, Hero and Castagnoli were hired as part of the conditions of Punk's contract.

9) Thus starts a program with "The New Kings of Wrestling" dominating like the NWO. Hero and Castagnoli pick up the tag titles and Cena starts wearing wrestling-trunks instead of his jeans to symbolise his transition from a Superstar to a "wrestler".

Have the whole thing run for a while. Hero and Castagnoli could be on short term contracts and also appear on ROH at their will. Punk is the top heel on the show, and while Cena stops doing a lot of his "Hustle, Loyalty and Respect" schtick, he remains a tweener. Eventually, Cena comes back to the WWE's side, beats Punk for the title and thus dismantles the stable.
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Wow, I didn't mean to write so much. I just "Noided".

Please take a read though, I think it's a pretty good idea.
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I haven't read through it but did notice it ends with "Eventually, Cena comes back to the WWE's side, beats Punk for the title and thus dismantles the stable." You could book the most logical, long drawn and well thought out storyline since the birth of the nWo and if it finishes like that, the mongs would still shit all over it, talk about it being a huge waste of time and so on.
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I haven't read through it but did notice it ends with "Eventually, Cena comes back to the WWE's side, beats Punk for the title and thus dismantles the stable." You could book the most logical, long drawn and well thought out storyline since the birth of the nWo and if it finishes like that, the mongs would still shit all over it, talk about it being a huge waste of time and so on.
Maybe because I don't really see this as a revolutionary moment. I think it could be an awesome angle for a couple of months and elevate Punk to a new level, at the most.

I'm being realistic in that there's no way the WWE would commit to turning Cena heel permanently because of the money he draws right now. A brief flirtation with a heel stable like this would probably be the most they'd do.

Punk would benefit greatly from being the leader of a proper stable for once; one that even includes Cena. Sure, it sounds a lot more like Nexus than it does NWO, but for those few months they'd be the hottest and most despised group of people in the industry.
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I like Chavo's idea aside from the last bit only because the WWE should push a new face while Cena is in this stable. Maybe a face Miz?
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So we're agreeing the ending sucks?

Meh, I didn't really focus on the ending too much as the heel turn for Cena and return for Punk are the bits that excite me the most. You can probably tell when I spent only one sentence summarising my finale.

They'd definately need to push new faces to feud with the group. Triple H would be an ideal rival, as he'd be fighting for the honour of the WWE against these (excuse the pun) punks who have gatecrashed the WWE and are disrespecting the legacy and achievements of everyone in the Hall of Fame.

Face Miz could work also - I love that idea. He could be booked as desperate to join the group, as he sees them as the elite. However, "The New Kings" toy with him, making him jump through hoops before they reject him for a third time. He snaps and takes them out. Obviously, they'd have to fight back and obliterate him to remain to appear strong, but that moment Miz snaps would be gold.
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Especially if Miz once again wins MITB but cant cash it in this time cos there's no championship on Raw (forget about jumping to SD) It really could work. Im just thinking now tho that its very similar to Nexus from last summer and might be too fresh in peoples minds to do it again with Cena. Even tho he never turned heel with nexus
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